Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:58 am Post subject: Open Question For Everyone
I'd like to know how many of you ghost hunters out there have investigated an abandoned structure that still contained an extraordinary amount of stuff left behind. In the TV Series, Scariest Places on Earth and Celebrity Paranormal Project, the particupants always explored locations with old furnture, debris, forgotten files and the hospitals still had things floating in jars of formaldehyde. I got to ask: why is that stuff left behind? and why hasn't *someone* tossed it out years ago?
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:59 pm Post subject: hey
I have always wondered the same thing!! Why don't they tear down old buildings if they are haunted and nobody wants anything to do with them. I watch ghost hunters & ghost adventures!
That's not quite the same thing I was talking about. There's too many haunted locations that have been knocked down that should not have been. I wonder a lot more about the jars of stuff floating in formaldehyde and forgotten patient files left behind in old hospitals. Personally as a ghost researcher with a fascination for history, I'd like to see stuff like that cleared out and placed maybe in museums or historical departments for study, not rotting away in deserted locations. I mean, on Ghost hunters, Zac Bagans found a wheelchair deserted in underground tunnels and a shaft filled with debris blocking his way. Why are remnants of the past discarded like that for someone else to clear out?
So, you're saying that stuff stays behind because no one "bothers" to get rid of it...
I think the answer leans more to that the debris adds to the atmosphere of the hauntings. I mean, if you owned a place like Waverly hills, wouldn't you leave as much items in the past inside to provoke and stimulate the atmosphere.
You know, it doesn't make that much sense to leave these things. But, on investigations, I'm glad that they did. These items, such as wheelchairs can habor old feelings that entice activity. As far as patients files and old medical records, they can't publicly display them because of the patients rights and HIPPA. Really if your family member had been tortured in one of these asylums, would you want all their information out? Although, if I found any on an investigation... I would read them in a heartbeat. The museum idea is great but ghost and spirits are still consider taboo in mainstream society. I would like a kidney in a jar! Anyone have one? LOL
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:28 pm Post subject: Left Behind
First, look at some of the places we're talking about here. Most of these asylums didn't have any respect for the people they were supposed to be caring for what makes you think they would have any reverence or respect for the items associated with these tortured people or the place they resided in. I think most of the caregivers were just stuck in a hopeless situation. They did the best they could with the resources they had. In many cases there were 30-40 patients to 1 caregiver, but just like any group or society of people you always have the "bad ones" and in these places I think you had people posing as so-called caregivers who just used the position as a cover for their sadistic fantasies. They tortured, experimented, etc. on the helpless patients and as they cared so little for human life they definitely aren't going to care about patient records or jars of organs and such being left behind. Unfortunately there is evil in this world and it's not always non-human entities. Many humans take their evil across into the spirit plane with them.
Most of these locations (especially mental hospitals) closed because of lack of funding - this means that A: The equipment that was there was outdated or obsolete to begin with so no one else wanted it, and B: There was no money to hire people to pick up what was left behind anyway, so they left it for whoever the next owners would be.
We have investigated abandoned homes in this situation - the people were forclosed on and had to leave in a short time and could not afford to take everything with them. (Either moved to a smaller location or away from the area.) _________________ -Stephen
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