Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: The ghost at my friends apt
I was in my friend's apartment they said to be haunted. They also said that they have talked to this spirit many times before. I never believed in ghosts until they showed me their basement. I had felt a ghostly chill at first, but I believed it to be just some kind of breeze since it is an old apartment. They then said they saw the spirit in the door way to another room which is usually lit only by a regular white light. At the time they said they felt his presence, in the doorway, was what appeared to be a tall male figure and then it happened. The room's light changed colors to purple and I had to take a picture. To my surprise I caught what seemed to be a ghostly trail to the ghostly appearance. But I was wrong, the next second the figure had vanished, apparently I had caught the ghost on its way out. I am now a believer in ghosts.[/img]
I may still be new to the group, and have only done a couple of investigations, but the photograph looks suspicious to me.
I went to art school, and taken many photography classes. There seems to be more than one light source behind, and to the right of the door. The lighting on the door does not seem right.
The "mist" is distorting the background in some places, which would indicate modifications made to the photograph.
Another discrempancy with the shadow figure is that it seems to be pointing in the same direction as the door, and it gets darker towards the bottom left. The head of the figure is larger above the door, than on the door. There is also some suspicious blue lighting on the floor in front of the door.
I would want to see the area and recreate the conditions. But I do have to wonder why the pipes in the top right of the picture are in focus, but the lights behind the door are blurry as if the camera was being moved... I guess it depends on the iso setting of the camera. but if I remember correctly, a low setting would cause everything to be blurry...
Was this taken with a digital camera or film? _________________ Dave of all trades. Master of none.
I was the only one in the room and I used a digital camera. It was funny cause I had to try to take a picture of a ghost for a class and my friend was like oh yea my apartment is haunted. So i took him up on his offer and it kinda scared the crap out of me. I will definitely be getting extra credit for this. I didn't even have to use photo shop
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:53 am Post subject: I Am Re-Thinking This Photo
It was funny cause I had to try to take a picture of a ghost for a class and my friend was like oh yea my apartment is haunted. So i took him up on his offer and it kinda scared the crap out of me.
You HAD to take a photo of a ghost for a class and just happened to have a friend with a haunted apartment?
I will definitely be getting extra credit for this."
What kind of class assigned this? Unless it is photography editing I am not so sure on the extra credit if the teacher has a good eye.
That has to be the fishiest story I have ever heard. Since no one has definitively taken a picture of a "ghost" let alone defined what one is how would one accomplish this assignment. Paranormal phenomena doesn't happen on cue because you show up and HAVE to take a picture.
Seasoned investigators are at a location for hours over many days and still don't record any phenomena with sophisticated equipment at known haunted locations. Not that lay people haven't filmed or captured unexplained phenomena: just not on cue for an assignment.
I have to change my opinion on this one and go with Photoshop or some other editing program as well. The circumstances of obtaining it are just too questionable now. It is entirely too convenient that someone would have an assignment like this, AND a friend with a haunted apartment, AND have it go right on the first try. Also further scrutiny shows that there is considerable blurring in some sections of the photo while other areas are crystal clear which sometimes happens in the editing and images don't line up or the effects aren't as perfect when added in.
It was for a critical thinking class where we had to take a picture of a "ghost" he wasn't expecting anything real because it isn't a class where that is its main topic. as to photoshop or anything like that, i did no use that at all. this is not the first time i was at their apartment. after talking to them about this project they said that their apartment was haunted, which i thought was fishy because why would they just mention this.
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject:
After looking closely at the photo, I have to agree with the new guy, it looks as if it has been tampered with.
As far as I know, I have never seen a ghost cast a shadow, and there seems to be a shadow of the ghost on the floor, made by a different light source. I have achieved the effect of what the pipes have around them by using no flash and prolonging the opening of the aperture. so, it is a cool looking picture, but it looks like someone tampered with it. And like the new guy said, the "ghosts'" head, is taller than the door and corresponds to the shadow on the floor. Bimmy
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject:
OK.. here it goes. Usually you can tell when humor is used, but what dmoriner, clydesmom and I are trying to say in a polite and caring way, so as not to offend anyone, is that ...
we believe that the picture was possibly tampered with or changed in some way, that makes it the picture you are looking at. Certain things are present or absent in pictures with ghosts caught in or on film or digital camera. We do not shun anyone and invite all to participate in analyzing the photos presented on this web site. So, if it is a real, untouched photo, which is fully possible, it is also possible that it may not be the real deal, because of the points of interest dmoriner and I and clydesmom stated.
so.. it is not humor, we are just being polite, and trying to validate what we are seeing or not seeing.
Does that make better sense for you? By the way, WELCOME TO GHOST HOUNDS!! Bimmy
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject:
Oh, one more thing... to follow the rules, please make sure you are not rude, or hurtful , or saying things in a way as to make someone feel bad about their submissions. We here, do not like that or tolerate it. So, remember, there is always a nice way to put something or a bad way, we like the good way, it encourages all kinds of neat discussions! Bimmy
I agree, but I would also hope that honest submissions would be a rule, and not an option. To the best of one's ability, anyway. I'm not a rude person, but I do expect an honest, respectable framework in return.
What kind of place would this be for me, if first I had to question the integrity of every submission/submittee? That would suck and waste time.
It's better to have an open debate about what is real, than what is not. Remember there are people out there that are having real problems, and stuff like this often strays from the priority. There are people out there having terrible issues, and stuff like often negates very real situations that people might be having.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:59 pm Post subject:
Meta, you are correct! usually pictures do not come in to question like this, and it does not happen often! There are some very rousing debates and discussions that go on. That is quite interesting and fun, and it is done w/o hurting anyones feelings. Some really great pictures come through and are posted in the picture area, but it may not be up and running yet. there, under the pictures, people make their comments and personal observations, so, once that is up and running and people submit them to that area, we do not get many review a picture submissions in the forum area. Unless it is something unusual, like this picture. So, if you are open minded, and have an opinion and enjoy discussions, talking about the paranormal,
you are at the right place. I thought the picture was very neat
and cool, but for me, looking at it, it seems a bit off. Like it looks like a magazine picture or a composite picture, of more than one picture, photo shopped look. That is my personal observation, and I would encourage the photographer, to try and take the same picture at the same angle at the same place and time of day to see what happens. So, if they do great, come back to the topic and add the new photo, and comments and we have a discussion. most people learning to take ghost pictures have learned to take more than one photo in succession
so you can see or track the anomaly in more than just the one picture. It also helps to look at them and compare them all. Sometimes you see more things others may not have seen. So, happy reading and hunting, and thankyou for your opinion! Hope to "see" you soon on the site! Bimmy
I am very familiar with photoshopping pictures and creating images. It is possible that this picture could have been edited. There are some things in the picture that are questionable. True! I, personally, believe the story though. I don't think it was edited. I'm going to run some tests in different lighting in a room I have where I can get the same angle and see where light would land, be re-directed to, and how a person standing to the right of the door inside the room's shadow would react.
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:17 am Post subject:
Bort, that sounds like a good idea.
Post back when you have it done!
I want to believe the picture too,
it is such an unusual picture. I know that sometimes, you are in the right place at the right time and you find that you captured a most amazing shot. so, innocent until proven guilty is the way to go. We can try to deconstruct it and see if it holds water, and as with any picture, i always look at it from all angles, and blow it up to examine more closely.
Some times i find things the photog missed. so, go for it. Bimmy
I have to question this image big time... there is just way to much going on in it... I also have issues with two source lighting that is really good and the fact the shadow appears in what looks to be gel light source... That still does not mean its not pissible because I have had spirits appear at filming locations during production... Still the fact that a spirit is casting another shadow an odd thing too... most are shadow mass... Okay still prove me wrong that is what makes this fun!!
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