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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject: Ghost Hunters last nite - Jason's injury
Last night's episode of Ghost Hunters was pretty good from what I saw (I was flipping back and forth between it and Gossip Girl ) But what really caught my attention was when Jason felt this sensation in his arm I think. When he described it, I remember having this same type of thing happen to me while on a Ghost Hound investigation. I felt a sensation in one of my arms too. It felt as if I had touched a bad wire or had been stung by an insect. The pain/numbness/burning feeling irradiated throughout my entire arm and was very uncomfortable but not enough that I complained to anyone about it. I just winced and did a few arms swings while making a note to mention it to my doctor next time I went for a visit. It only happened that one time and I couldn't find a bite mark or any visible reason for it and eventually just forgot about it....until last night.
Do any of you think that this type of thing could be paranormal in nature? Has it happened to anyone else?
Who was the new girl on the show? Is she the person who won the contest?
What do you think that thing was that appeared in the hallway?
And someone please tell me why is it that the cameraman's industrial expensive videorecorder could not pick up the humming/singing but the cheaper handheld one that Grant had somehow did????
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Ghost Hunters last nite - Jason's injury
Casperette wrote:
Last night's episode of Ghost Hunters was pretty good from what I saw (I was flipping back and forth between it and Gossip Girl ) But what really caught my attention was when Jason felt this sensation in his arm I think. When he described it, I remember having this same type of thing happen to me while on a Ghost Hound investigation. I felt a sensation in one of my arms too. It felt as if I had touched a bad wire or had been stung by an insect. The pain/numbness/burning feeling irradiated throughout my entire arm and was very uncomfortable but not enough that I complained to anyone about it. I just winced and did a few arms swings while making a note to mention it to my doctor next time I went for a visit. It only happened that one time and I couldn't find a bite mark or any visible reason for it and eventually just forgot about it....until last night.
Do any of you think that this type of thing could be paranormal in nature? Has it happened to anyone else?
It could possibly point to something paranormal.
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Who was the new girl on the show? Is she the person who won the contest?
Kris Williams. She is a friend of TAPS that they decided to bring on as a new investigator.
[quote}What do you think that thing was that appeared in the hallway?[/quote]
Without seeing the video enhanced and analyzed a bit more as well as the area of the hallway it showed up in investigated more I would not venture a guess.
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And someone please tell me why is it that the cameraman's industrial expensive videorecorder could not pick up the humming/singing but the cheaper handheld one that Grant had somehow did????
It did pick it up. The footage that they were showing the guy at the place was from the camerman's footage, not Jay and Grant's. They were both in frame during the reveal. _________________ Eeek the Kat (aka Darren)
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject:
Thanks Eeek!!! I guess if I were paying attention to this show more instead of all the drama on GG I would have known all this. But I just thought of something else too, a question for you and Denisee....
Would you two consider the ice clown incidents as being similar to the things Jason and I experienced?
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:45 pm Post subject:
...and also.....if it was the cameraman's camera then I would think that we would have heard it as the show was playing since the show wasn't a live episode right? I am confused
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject:
Casperette wrote:
...and also.....if it was the cameraman's camera then I would think that we would have heard it as the show was playing since the show wasn't a live episode right? I am confused
I did hear during the show. _________________ Eeek the Kat (aka Darren)
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject:
You've got superhearing Eeek!!!! I turned the tv up and got close to it but couldn't hear it at all until the playback when they were going over the evidence and at the reveal.
Joined: Apr 30, 2006 Posts: 510 Location: Oakland County, Michigan
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject:
I heard the humming, too, just barely. The tingling in the arm thing? I get it all the time during investigating..in my back, almost like the spine goes numb/tingly and cold.
Joined: Aug 26, 2007 Posts: 79 Location: Tampa, FL
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:01 am Post subject:
zombiedigger wrote:
well the thing in the hallway, like eek said would like to see better video on it, would have like to see them debunk it.
Just from a completely different view point. This could be a shadow outside on the window? Car driving by reflecting part of the building onto the window as it passes or circle by. I'm just disspointed they didn't not show more of this area in the day time.
The Shadow looks to only be in the window. Do to the bleeding together of the video being zoomed in, the bottom looks to go a little passed. I don't see it on the walls.... it looks like on the bottom it's on the window ledge not so much the wall.
The video does get lighter as the shadow is seen more. This could just be the video/editing, or it could be lights passing by outside.
Without knowning many more details, there will be no way to ever tell this.. Unless.... ROAD TRIP!!!
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:07 am Post subject:
I think that's too solid to be a shadow, and the movement doesn't make sense for a shadow...however, I just don't know. I'm always skeptical that someone is planted on the inside unbeknownst to investigators to stage some evidence, and that could always be the case, too. I'd like to see that one debunked though, it has a few possibilities.
Joined: Aug 26, 2007 Posts: 79 Location: Tampa, FL
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:47 am Post subject:
Kristin wrote:
I think that's too solid to be a shadow, and the movement doesn't make sense for a shadow...however, I just don't know. I'm always skeptical that someone is planted on the inside unbeknownst to investigators to stage some evidence, and that could always be the case, too. I'd like to see that one debunked though, it has a few possibilities.
From what I can tell there are 6 panes of glass going across in that window. The last set on the right are always shadowed, but still slightly transparent.I'm just wondering what's causing the shadow on the last set of glass?
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:29 am Post subject:
I don't know! But that shadow/thing seems to be coming out an opening doorway, or a door that's slightly ajar. I don't know how a shadow could be visible coming out a door way (as if generated from behind the door and continuing outward), and the movement of it makes no sense as a shadow. Then again who can be sure? Plus! the door is partially in the way as the shadow moves to the right which tells me it's probably NOT a shadow. I'd be more concerned that someone is waving a dark piece of gauzy cloth in the doorway to look like something moving in the dark. Granted, the manager in this case wanted to debunk the stories of hauntings and the guys couldn't do that really. Though too, as "it" moves toward the right there looks to be separation on the bottom, like legs... squarish pant legs. As much as I love the "evidence" there can never be 100% assurance that any of them don't have alternative explanations. Except maybe EVP but we're not talking about that .
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:32 am Post subject:
hmmm.
the sceptic side of me looks at the clip and looks for the obvious.
straight flat line at the top -as in a pole or rod. definite straight line, where something ascends over it and then descends again.
the something -looks like a black sheer fabric or some other dark pourous cloth which flows with the movement and then flows on the return. and, there is a second cloth seen underneath which is opaque. it also has a striaght line to it when it is in front of the light. this much is fairly obvious -it is cloth of some sort.
to my eyes, it looks like someone masked in this black cloth with the pourous cloth draped over something long and straight.
I'm not so sure why this made it in as a possible paranormal instance. I question that. to me, it looks as if someone is intentionally waving a black sheer cloth on a rod in the dark from a door -in hopes of creating something on film!
and, I question the motive for it being included in any show.
but, since it was done before...
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:43 am Post subject:
Yep, I thought so too, gauzy black (or doesn't have to even be black-it's pretty black in the room). LIke a curtain "sheer" on a rod or flagpole type thing. Just one small iota of time does it show maybe a separation toward the bottom but that could be just a little optical illusion...
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:45 am Post subject:
the clip after looking at it over and over looks like more than one figure, almost like 3. like 2 are escorting a 3rd, out the door and in to the hall, get called back or the third figure is putting up a fuss and does not want to go and yanks the other 2 back through the door they just came out of, maybe 2 staff taking someone to shock therapy? and they did not want to go.. that is the emotional and visual impression i get when i look at this clip. Bimmy
Joined: Aug 26, 2007 Posts: 79 Location: Tampa, FL
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:04 am Post subject:
wingedguy wrote:
hmmm.
the sceptic side of me looks at the clip and looks for the obvious.
straight flat line at the top -as in a pole or rod. definite straight line, where something ascends over it and then descends again.
the something -looks like a black sheer fabric or some other dark pourous cloth which flows with the movement and then flows on the return. and, there is a second cloth seen underneath which is opaque. it also has a striaght line to it when it is in front of the light. this much is fairly obvious -it is cloth of some sort.
to my eyes, it looks like someone masked in this black cloth with the pourous cloth draped over something long and straight.
I'm not so sure why this made it in as a possible paranormal instance. I question that. to me, it looks as if someone is intentionally waving a black sheer cloth on a rod in the dark from a door -in hopes of creating something on film!
and, I question the motive for it being included in any show.
but, since it was done before...
hmmm
I did find it funny how they stressed the guy wanted to disprove this. Then they happen to find something, and suggest opening the place to the public $$$. Wonder where the 2008 Holloween speical will be?
I still feel it's outside the window. It's to conformed to the size of the window. That's what gives it the straight rod effect at the top. (would be very hard to run a rod into a room at that height and pull it back out that straight and that fast. From what I can tell that window is being lite up from the outside. You could have a flag or something small outside to create that shadow if the light is outside.
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:18 am Post subject:
The problem with a video like this is that it is too compressed and grainy to even be useful. That could be anything from a curtain blowing around to shadows cause by outside movement.
I would like to see actual high quality footage used on ghost shows, no more of this lets buy dirt cheep cameras so we can't even distinguish a face on them. My phone takes better quality video than this.
If any of these videos are to be taken even half seriously they need to do a half serious job of presenting the evidence.
My newest camera is a 16.2 megapixel camera low light and no light capabilities, I can photograph a fly from 100 feet in the dark and you can see the veins in his wings. I have seen video cameras of similar quality. Point these at a ghost instead of a low level security camera.
sorry if I sound like I am ranting, but these low quality videos I see are really beginning to make a boil on my patootie.
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:38 pm Post subject:
Um, lovely pic, Wacky. *shudders*
I'm with most of you there. I just felt really disappointed and let down about the whole thing. It didn't really look very transparent to me, and I felt like they didn't spend the time trying to debunk it like they did a lot of other things, such as the figure seen with the "2" on the metal door. They spent the better part of 10-15 minutes, 2 tries trying to debunk that one, trying to figure out if it could be a reflection, and why the 2 would get so hot and flash so brilliantly at them.
I realize that the segment is only 30 minutes that we see, and it takes a very long time to film it all, and they go through hours upon hours of tapes. I'm sure GG would attest to all the things that go into this type of investigation, and we don't get to see it all due to programming restrictions. BUT at the same time, GG can probably attest that they are staking their reputations on how the show is put on, and at some point, you would think they would have some sort of say in what is produced and run, and if not, they might want to consider a new contract with a new production company, hey? One where they would have better control over what is produced and run, maybe?
I don't think I could stake my reputation on a show that appeared quite so shoddy as this one. The underground part was so very similar to the previous underground episode. I was fairly bored, and as I said, disappointed. _________________ Believe in yourself, have faith in whatever you truly believe, and the possiblities are limitless.
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject:
Jesse wrote:
Wonder where the 2008 Holloween speical will be?
It will be at Waverly Hills Sanitorium. Verified it with Jason and Grant. _________________ Eeek the Kat (aka Darren)
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject:
One thing to remember with the quality of the video displayed in this thread is that it was what zombiedigger was able to find on fairly short notice, and it is also cropped and zoomed in on. I am hoping that TAPS will post the actual video on the website so we can take a look at it. _________________ Eeek the Kat (aka Darren)
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Joined: Jun 20, 2007 Posts: 127 Location: Atlanta, GA
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject:
Hi guys, I watched the new episode last night and I don't know, something about the new girl just rubs me the wrong way. I've liked the other girls they've had with them in the past, but Kris just seems "flippant" about the investigations. I agree though about the "shadow" how they need to do more debunking on it. I thought it looked like maybe a door trying to close then opening back up. Was Kris the one at DragonCon? I thought she kind of looked familiar. Anyway glad that they are finally back on again. Anyone watching Ghost Whisperer tonight? I can't wait, and the new Vampire one as well looks really good. Oh, and that new show on Sci-Fi for The Tin Man looks really good, I even told my mom about that one and she said she may check it out. Anyway hope to see ya'll soon!!
Keri
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject:
yea the clip i attached is small and grainy, but its all I could grab just after the show. I would not use anything of that quality for anytype of verification, was just posting that so people had a ref of the encounter. _________________ If your not behind our Troops, please feel free to stand infront of them.
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) But what really caught my attention was when Jason felt this sensation in his arm I think. When he described it, I remember having this same type of thing happen to me while on a Ghost Hound investigation. I felt a sensation in one of my arms too. It felt as if I had touched a bad wire or had been stung by an insect. The pain/numbness/burning feeling irradiated throughout my entire arm and was very uncomfortable but not enough that I complained to anyone about it. I just winced and did a few arms swings while making a note to mention it to my doctor next time I went for a visit. It only happened that one time and I couldn't find a bite mark or any visible reason for it and eventually just forgot about it....until last night.
incidents as being similar to the things Jason and I experienced?
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