Joined: Jun 01, 2007 Posts: 78 Location: Lawrenceville, GA
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:45 am Post subject:
I recorded a show about possesion on the Discovery Channel. I need to watch it. Possession is a subject that really scares me. Like the exorcism of Emily Rose. That movie scared me cos it could really happen.
Joined: Jul 07, 2004 Posts: 108 Location: Robins Air Force Base GA
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:18 pm Post subject:
exactly its is a scary situation. we had a smiliar case where possession was a possibility but when we went over the evidence you could clearly see that the person was faking. our demonologist was there and he said clearly that she was faking. the reveal will be a weird one.
That would be a tough one, I know some groups do not like to post information about cases to the public. But if this was the first investigation, I think that a follow up investigation should be done.
I am not familar with this typ of case, I really wouldn't know what to do.
Joined: Sep 06, 2007 Posts: 146 Location: Fairburn, GA
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:19 am Post subject:
Leave it to Eeek to recommend documentation! Go Eeek!! I agree 1000% and then some. Document everything you can, and then worry about the rest later. _________________ Believe in yourself, have faith in whatever you truly believe, and the possiblities are limitless.
Joined: Jul 11, 2006 Posts: 659 Location: Riverdale, Ga
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject:
I would also want to record because like Watcher said, you do not know if someone is faking or not. That would be the real issue so recording might help to prove or disprove.
Joined: Jun 05, 2007 Posts: 85 Location: kennesaw, ga.
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:39 am Post subject:
bimmy here... possession is a darned scary thing, to entertain the idea it is before your face is terrifying. when i was a young student nurse and we were doing our psychiatric model, we went to a hospital and there i was told about a young man 18, that his family said was
possessed. they would hear all kinds of un natural sounds from his bedroom at all hours, he
spoke in weird languages at
them, and they feared for their lives. well, the kid was seriously
crazy, or truely possessed.
he was on heavy doses of meds
that would keep a horse down,
and it did not even phaze him.
when i had to talk to him, it felt awful. he had this thing in his eyes, and it was not human. he scared the crap out of me, and i asked for a different patient.
strangely enough, he looked like an angel, and was actually beautiful to look at. made me thing of evil in a whole new way.
so, i would say, go Eeks' way, and document it all, and if you feel threatened, leave and for heavens' and your souls' sake PROTECT YOURSELF, before and after you are there.
1) Soil my shorts 2) document everything to see if it is one... 3) Get a trans medium on board your team ASAP 4) Clean shorts as they get their info 5) if it is a case of posession begin to het the adivce of clergry or the in the belief of the client... _________________ Will Hillard-Aymerich
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I agree about checking with the religious faith of the person posessed. Many religions have different dogma regarding the topic of posession. A person can only be freed from a posessed state through either their own free will or intervention from a higher authority than the inhabiting spirit. The key to successfully getting a posessed person's soul free relies heavily on their personal religious beliefs and how strong THEY trust to that belief.
Joined: Jun 05, 2007 Posts: 85 Location: kennesaw, ga.
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject:
i have heard the same thing... also heard from a clergy person and demonologist that for a person to become possessed, they have to agree to it, even if they are tricked in to saying yes. Words have power, and if you say no, ththen no means no, and you may be subjected to some bad stuff, to try and weaken you further. you may be the weakest person and down in the gutter, with dirt and piss, but if you have enough strength to say no, then god is right there to back it up. rules are rules, and that one is hard and fast. others that are ripe for possession are those with
mental illness, and those people we meet, that want power, power corrupts... and so on. faith, in whatever higher power you believe in , will make you stronger. sometimes that power of evil is very persuasive. but one cannot give in, and praying for clear thought, and true vision is a must. true vision is that vision given By god to see the evil for what it is, not what is being shown to you. sorry to go on, but
evil loves nothing more than to make someone fall off the fence on to the side of evil, and it tends to go after the faithful with a vengence. I pray none of us get in to it with evil. bimmy
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: Agreed
I agree 100% with what you are saying. I believe it is absolutely true.
Let me now throw a chink at you about why this happens to people.
My mother is a fantastic example. No one knows this but me because I was the only one around to ever see it happen. My mom grew up in an horrifically abusive alcoholic childhood environment. Both parents were constantly stoned out of their mind and beating the hell outta each other and all the kids. Words cannot express the torment that my mother and her siblings went through as children. That is not a household where god resides. That is a home full of evil deeds and evil vibes. I have to make a few facts known for clarity sakes. I am endeavoring NOT to bash my childhood religion- I leave that to others to make up their own mind.
They as well as their mother grew up in a Catholic household. Catholics as you all know are notorious for turning a BLIND eye to activities that OTHER religions refuse to tolerate. Drinking to excess and physical voilence against women and children are 2 of which I write personal experiences from.
You've probably all heard of that biblical saying "sins of the Father...are inherited by the son(children)",? Well one time in my Sunday school class I remember the group pondering that proverb and commenting on how unfair it was. They did not understand because they had not been there.........they were raised Baptists, not Catholic. How could they know? But i knew. I knew because the sins of my mother had passed down to me.
It didn't happen often, at least, that's all my mind will let me remember but sometimes, late at night, my mom would turn violent. It only happened when my dad was working night shifts and it only happened when she was mad or worried about something. I just remember living through it and learning how to survive.
Like I said, no one else knows about it because no one else could see it.................but I could.............and I knew. While my mom was beating me and throwing all her anger into me, what she was really doing was not hitting me, she was hitting her own mom, and for a few minutes, she could get revenge. I remember looking up at my mom and not recognizing her. The mother I knew was not even at home (mentally) there was honestly someone else in control at the moment. You remember that movie the devil's advocate? Well, I swear, her face would actually twist into a horrible grimace and for a faint few seconds deep inside her eyes, I swear I saw- the devil. oh sure after she'd gotten done beating the hell outta me she'd feel better and she'd come back in control and hold me and sob. She'd always go to confession and apologize profusely to the priest and she'd promise to never do it again. But don't you know a month or 2 later, something else would get her dander up and when we were all alone together or I was asleep in bed, that demon inside her from way back in her childhood would resurface, and I'd see the demon stir within her once more. I am not using a metaphor here people, my mom has a mild form of posession. So much so that my dad actually later in life began being hit by my mom when I had moved outta the home. He began to see it for himself as well. It makes my skin crawl to even be near her because she feels so bad to be around.
Did she willingly let it in her? Probably. Is she responsible for her actions? Hell yes. But I do want to let everyone in this forum, now I know how people can easily be swayed into allowing evil to possess them..............they may not be strong enough to fight it off. I know, I was there. I survived it, and I now see a therapist to make sure those demons will never posess me. i am stronger than that. Plus, I had my dad there to help me maintain balance. Just enough exposure to god there in my life to get me straight!
Joined: Jun 05, 2007 Posts: 85 Location: kennesaw, ga.
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject:
i do know what you are talking about, and had friends that are catholic that went through the same thing. i am so sorry you lived with that. you came out a stronger person, and one whose faith has a good grip. I cannot sy i went through it, but, i have great empathy for you.
the buck stopped with you and i am positive it is devine intervention, and you are meant for a great purpose.
I read a book that was about true events and you would think the child would be rescued... but here it is.. in canada, a mom was in to the evil satanism, gave her 5 yo daughter to the leader. she was put in the grave and "rebirthed" in to evil, and she was tortured and beated, and they tried to make her do blasphemoue things to the bible, and she refused. she took some of her hair and made a woven cross of it and put it in her tangled hair, she prayed all the time to be taken away or rescued. she prayed to the virgin maary, who she said visited her and eased some of her pain, and told her to keep Jesus in her heart. she did, and at every turn she thwarted her captors, even her mother would try and she kept her faith. she was rescued after a few months, mom was put in jail
and a few cult members, but, like you, her trial of life made her stronger, and she is alive today.
You survuved too, and have not just kept your faith, but honored God, by being alive for him and not spreading the evil you were subjected to. Thank you, for sharing your experience. Bimmy
Joined: Nov 05, 2007 Posts: 20 Location: Canton GA
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject:
Thank you for that post.It takes a person with alot of SOUL and HEART to live that as a child and to write that down in any forum at anytime.You said that your Mom was possesed,But in alot of ways you and others in the house were oppressed(like Athena wrote in another post) by this force.I some ways I can relate.In others I would never want to.We all see possesion the way it is portrayed in the movies and TV,But at the sametime could be living a different form of it all along. _________________ ORBS- Dust balls from heaven to aggravate the hell out of all us.
Joined: Oct 28, 2004 Posts: 728 Location: Snellville, Ga
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject:
I am touched by your story, Bethoc and of your past experiences. where many people have a lifetime of "safe" and nuturing memories of childhood, tragically some don't. I am glad to hear you say you are aware of it's potential in yourself and that you have taken steps to confront the issues which have left deep scars upon your life.
the problem with anything which effects the human psyche is that it is usually complex and involves many stimuli. in your case, evil manifested itself in violent actions which caused emotional imprinting on each generation which endured the physical and emotional torment.
I am sure you can testify, as many do, that the physical beatings can be forgotten and overcome, but the emotional scarrings remain and have the potential to effect the person you have become. this is the most horrendous part of enduring the torment; from one who encounters the actions of another under the influence of a demon or one who has embraced evil within their life. the results of each act are, at the least, physical hurt -at the most, emotional upheaval.
imprinting is the vehicle which remanifests the hurt emotionally through generation after generation. the demon brings first the evil through influence on the living; it is recreated again and again!
having personally encountered 2 demons in my life, one in the form of itself, and another within a living person, I have experienced the emotional drain just in being around an evil being. it is draining. and, evil wounds the soul!
and make no mistake -a demon is no way the same as a ghost. both are in the spiritual realm, but they are vastly different!
a demon only effects the living, not the dead. by their sole mission, they are equipped to bring doubt, fear, and hopelessness to the living. that is how they exist, feeding on the fear and emotional energy on one who is influenced.
I agree that possession is the personal yielding of one's control to an evil entity in some way or another. it is a choice, in that a person yields himself over to this entity with or without realizing its control nor understanding and enforcing his own control over his mind and body. in many cases, an abuse weakens the person enough that the soul has low self-identity. their situation becomes more hopeless to them, and yield becomes greater.
but, this is assured -a person has the ability to break the bonds of evil on their life. through their faith, they can overcome the hold evil has on a life.
sometimes it takes help from one who is grounded and experienced on spiritual issues who can lead the person out of the mire. surely, it is a difficult process, but is never hopeless!
posession is something which is real and dangerous -it can lead persons to destroy their lives! and, it continues to wreak havoc on the innocent lives of those individuals who have to live with the one who is dealing with these issues.
and such is the basis of spiritual warfare! _________________ "just because you can't SEE them, doesn't mean they're not there!"
I never anticipated such warm and encouraging reactions such as these on a forum. I am deeply touched and even spiritually encouraged by the replies left here tonight.
Thank you so much for your kind words and personal reflections upon this subject. Honestly I hadn't thought about how deeply I was revealing shades of my innermost self. LOL! I guess that's the Catholic "confessor" coming out of me. We Catholics don't feel forgiven until a priest or someone else says basically "its OK"
Sad hu? It wasn't until I got out of my childhood religion and began to explore other ideas about spiritual practice did I really see my faith become even stronger.
Yes, I like the little girl you mentioned, also prayed my tiny little heart out to the Virgin Mary for assistance and intervention. I remember just sitting outside and singing to my cat to keep my hopes up. I'm older now and i've grown from it. I just can't say enough how much everyone's reassuring words have touched me to my core tonight.
Joined: Jun 05, 2007 Posts: 85 Location: kennesaw, ga.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:06 am Post subject:
Bethoc, no one here will sit in judgement. It does reveal some of your inner soul/self, and not the need to confess, but for validation of your personal journey. Everyone needs validation , some more than others, but... we read your words and have faith. Just as you will read ours and know that we feel your pain! I was told that the more a person of strong faith , or blind faith or just faith at all, are on the right journey for the higher power, God, the more they pop up on the radar of evil. It means we are doing the right thing! Being a spiritual warrior, is not just fighting evil, but all the things you had to experience as a child, and came out on the other end, this amazing human being, able to put in to words, all the awfulness of it. YOU GO GIRL!! I will pray for continued strength and courage for you, and that one day you will let go of all of it and forgive yourself for being a child and not being able to do anything about it. That is the catholic guilt part, to need forgiveness, even when it was not our acts that needed forgiving.
Stay strong, and live life well, you deserve it! Bimmy
Joined: Sep 06, 2007 Posts: 146 Location: Fairburn, GA
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:55 pm Post subject:
I agree with deja vu. It's really important to contact someone who's experienced in dealing with demons. I've faced one down myself, and I'm in agreement--not a pleasant experience.
Bethoc, I'm so sorry to hear about your experience. It's sad, to be sure. My husband has a very similar experience with an alcoholic father. I hate to talk badly about the deceased, and especially one who had a horrible disease, but it's true. I think experiences like yours and his are really a lot more common than we want to acknowledge, to be honest. Thanks for sharing. It helps so many of us to get to know you better. *hugs* _________________ Believe in yourself, have faith in whatever you truly believe, and the possiblities are limitless.
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