Debunked Ghost Pic

Pete187Rock · Ectoplasm Joined: Oct 27, 2004 Posts: 701

Just thought I would post an example of a Debunked ghost pic that I personally was so intrigued in that I wanted to see for myself if this was infact a real apparition.

First the photo:

Now for those that don't know, this pic was posted on the board a while back. Everyone, including myself, thought this to be an apparition of a little girl in a cemetary. It looked pretty real to me but often photos can be misleading since you have headstones and markers of angels, things that could look human like in the vague darkness, etc.

I went off in search of this location in hopes to find there nothing to be in its place, therefore proving that this was indeed an apparition like stated. After I arrived and found the spot I quickly spotted this rouge marker or whatever it is and that it oddly looked familiar to the girl apparition pic posted. This got me thinking as to how many of these photos get submitted and people dont take the time to revisit the location in the day time and take more pics to help prove the pic is indeed paranormal.

Isnt this what we do this for? To find proof of the afterlife? Just something to think about next time any of you snap random photos and submit them as paranormal. You just never know even though it actually looks like a ghost, it may just be something in the background so everyone of us owes it to ourselves and the study of paranormal activity to atleast try and debunk your own photos before submitting them just in case you get what I found on my journey to that location.

Babs · Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:33 pm Post subject:

I agree Pete. If its at all possible (not on vacation in Timbuktu when you took the photo) definitely go back and recheck in the light of day. Of course thats in addition to taking more than one pic in the same exact location without moving the camera.
Thanks Pete for posting that. It sure did look like a genuine apparition photo. Great work!

Babs
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anothergapeach · Orb Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Posts: 86

Good work. Thank you for taking the time to investigate and share your findings with all of us.

ghostgeek · Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:40 pm Post subject:

Nice work Pete! I know all too well the disappointment that comes when you think you might have something amazing, only to find out it’s totally non-paranormal explanation, but if one is going to do research in this field, one must be unbiased and impartial; always looking for other explanations.
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Pete187Rock · Ectoplasm Joined: Oct 27, 2004 Posts: 701

Wackywizjr · Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:08 am Post subject:

Well done Pete. Smile

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J_Man · Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:42 am Post subject:

That's one of the problems and why so many find it hard to take many ideas serious. It doesn't matter if it's ghosts or UFOs, people that want to believe and feel they need "proof" but hasn't ever saw anything will "create" what they need to "confirm". For some, that blur from moing the camera is nothing more than a ghost walking by when it's obviously not. Others will forget they have a tv going in another room while doing EVP recording and think they've discovered something amazing. It just goes to show that everything needs to be triple checked when investigating. It should go without saying that when a person is going to offer up evidence without much to back it up, be ready for other points of view.

ghostgeek · Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:36 pm Post subject:

Here is the original image at full-size

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wingedguy · Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject:

I'm curious, PB -

you, being a self-confessed skeptic who is trying to prove the existence of ghosts and to offer viable explanations for "ghostly enounters" -does seeing evidence that dis-proves an excepted apparition encounter sway you back to the skeptic side? even just a little?

to me -it's like the feeling when the dog ran away. everyone said it would happen and deep down I suspected it, but I never thought he would.

I believe the evidence on this one coming to light was necessary -if not disappointing! all of us have used that photo to show our buddies what we do here; it was one of our "merit badges!" lol

I, myself, feel like I want to go out there and find another ghost, just to prove what I believe deep down -that there is something there, that there are paranormal encounters which can not be explained except for simply concluding the inevitable, "we still don't know -inconclusive".

just wondering.

maybe it would help matters if one would just roll the toilet paper again!

chris
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Pete187Rock · Ectoplasm Joined: Oct 27, 2004 Posts: 701

I dont think that this debunked pic makes me a non-believer. Like I have said before in other posts. I know what Ive seen, Ive seen 2 ghosts with my naked eye. I have seen visible orbs and shadows as well. Does this make you all believe in ghosts more? Who knows, but personally Im not out to prove to the world that ghosts exist or not. To me, its more of a personal vendetta to find proof for myself which I have found some pretty damn good footage in my journeys as a paranormal investigator.

I do owe Ghosthounds credit for getting me started in doing all of this and helping me get educated on the PROPER ways of doing an investigation and I think the main part of a investigation is to find proof and then try your best to debunk it. Some will say they have tried and went back to look for it, Yadaa, Yadda. Honestly, how many of us have actually went back for seconds, so to speak, and see if what we got actually was something. Or, have we been too caught up in the initial WOW of it all and just accepted it as something paranormal?

The only reason I posted this up was to make folks realize how pictures can be SOOOOO decieving especially when there arent several other pics of the same location to review. I honestly cant remember the last time Ive glanced through the photo section here because of this simple fact. This doesnt just work on photos either. This works for EVP you have gotten, Video, etc. There have been times where I have gotten a sure fire EVP on my DVR and upon reviewing the Video footage heard it and found out it was somebody that was on the investigation.

Now I know everybody isnt this serious into this hobby but I strongly encourage everyone to practice debunking your own footage before submitting it. I remember an EVP I submitted a while back that I swore said "Hey, your back. Hows Pete" clear as day! So I submitted it as quick as I could because it would have been the first personal responsive EVP I have ever gotten. Come to find out, once again while watching the video, that it was me and my gf's voices, but on my DVR it sounded like one voice. Weird huh? But thats how it happens sometimes, so be careful and thorough in your investigations.

J_Man · Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:55 am Post subject:

Yeah one picture or many pictures debunked doesn't prove anything other than those pictures being false. There are many other examples beyond this to say otherwise. You can't throw out everything else that's come before and after a debunked (fill in the blank). I've had several encounters of my own that I would never throw out. Stuff that you can be sure that it isn't what would be considered "normal". Styrofoam cup move across a table, apperance of a guy aiming a gun my direction, orbs, and several other things. I can't sit here and say 100% what I have encountered from the experiences I have had, but only because none of us (anywhere that we know of anyway) can give a 100% explanation of paranormal investigations. We come to the conclusions of what we think and have come to feel we know, but that's all you can ask. Sometimes "well known cases" just ends up being something else.

Here's one good example. I was in a hospital and standing close by an elevator. I kept hearing voices and lots of activity, but the elevator was hardly being used. I couldn't figure it out and was close to thinking there was a haunting going on. Finally one doctor got in the elevator as another doctor was entering from the other side. The elevator opened on both sides and there was a hallway that was vary active on the other side. Had I never saw that door open on the other side, it looked like it was a solid wall from my side. So again things just are not always what you first think and further study is always necessary before making claims. There's many well investigated cases where every angle of investigation was done and no other explanation could be given other than "a haunting". You just gotta always keep an open mind for both sides.