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Snm
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 Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: Whaley House orbs |
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I tried to post these pics in the photos section but it didn't work. I took my first trip to the Whaley House in San Diego just recently. It turned out to be an amazing experience. As many of you already know it is purported to be America's most haunted house along with the Myrtle's Plantation in Louisiana. I took lots of pictures and noticed orb like forms in many of them. It's worth noting that these orbs showed up only in pictures taken at the Whaley House and nowhere else. Here are a few examples. In the first picture the orb is found above the chair behind the desk. In the second picture in the top right corner:
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ponyboy
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really just looks like dust to me.
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Snm
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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I took over a hundred pictures when I went on my trip and the camera didn't pick up any other orbs anywhere else.
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ponyboy
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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that part of it is indeed interesting. i've had several similar experiences like that before where i've taken dozens of pictures with my camera and having only one location turn up dust orbs like that. i can never understand how the dust knows to float around the haunted places and not the regular places 
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Snm
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Who cares
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Snm
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| Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| The poll isn't working, it won't let us vote for some reason. To everyone who reads this thread please just post your opinion: dust or orb. What do you think it is? Thanks in advance. |
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ponyboy
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| Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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i can vote just fine
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Snm
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| WTF! I don't care if you think it's just dust! It's not dust. It's at the Whaley House the most haunted house in America! And don't argue with me. I don't care about the internet! I don't care enough to even fi |
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Snm
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| There's 146 views and only 2 votes. Come on! |
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eeek_the_kat
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| I am thinking dust as well. |
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ponyboy
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Snm wrote: |
| WTF! I don't care if you think it's just dust! It's not dust. It's at the Whaley House the most haunted house in America! And don't argue with me. I don't care about the internet! I don't care enough to even fi |
if you don't want honest opinions, don't ask for them.
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Santa2
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| The one above the chair in the first picture looks real. All the ones I see indoors are horizontal egg shaped with a dark spot either in the left or right half. Have you tried locating the orbs in a room using the edge of your peripheral vision before taking the picture? |
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Snm
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Santa2 wrote: |
| The one above the chair in the first picture looks real. All the ones I see indoors are horizontal egg shaped with a dark spot either in the left or right half. Have you tried locating the orbs in a room using the edge of your peripheral vision before taking the picture? |
Thanks for the advice. I've never tried, but I will consider it next time. How did you discover that it works? Don't forget to vote.
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| if you don't want honest opinions, don't ask for them. |
We can agree to disagree.
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| I am thinking dust as well. |
How is it dust? Think about it, this is the most haunted house in America we're talking about. |
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ponyboy
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even the most haunted house in america can have dust. just because a building has reported activity doesn't mean everything you see in the building is paranormal.
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casper_the_cutie
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| even the most haunted house in america can have dust. just because a building has reported activity doesn't mean everything you see in the building is paranormal. |
I agree with Ponyboy...you can be in one of the most haunted places around and yet you wont experience anything at all. As far as your pic I am gonna go with dust. I have learned from my own experience's a little about orbs and dust and from the folks here on Ghosthounds. I have also learned that if you want an opinion about a photo go in with an open mind and just not assume that the pic you have is paranormal and dont be disappointed if the answer's you get are not what you wanted.
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Casperette
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Okay enough of me being nice today!!!!!!!!
Come on you guys that is so not dust!!! Dust orbs don't even look like that. They are usually small, closer to whatever stirred them up, and there are tons of them. Yes, those of us who clean know that dust specks never travel alone. Even if it were a piece of lint or a large dust bunny flying through the air somehow, I'm sure they would be in most of the rooms and therefore on more pics. The dust would also have to be big enough to deflect enough light to create orbs that big - something I've never seen. And if it they were, I'm sure somebody would have saw it and said something. Plus the desk looks like it has been polished which if this were the case, dust would be attracted to the stuff on the desk not away from it. As far as the ceiling orb, if it were dust I highly doubt it would travel up there unless it was blown from below, pulled in by a fan, or some type of suction or return vent was up there which I don't see. If the dust were on the camera used it would show up in more pics close to or in the exact same spot until wiped off (it usually won't come off or move around by itself). If all of you still honestly believe that this is still dust, I'm sure that you will have no problem creating a pic with a single large dust orb indoors and in a place that is regularly cleaned. We need to be more analytical when discussing and commenting on pics or any other type of phenomena. And as investigators, making a comment without backing it up with a good sound explanation would be very unacceptable and unprofessional if you were working on a real investigation (and I know at least two of you who do work on real investigations). And honestly, right now, if I had a ghost in my crib, I'd rather invite Scooby Doo and Crew in to do the investigation than you guys.  Now back to the picture, there are many other ways that false positive orbs end up on film. For instance it could be:
1- Insects (would probably be visible to the necked eye and usually have a smaller orb with a spread)
2- Bacteria (nothing infected or decomposing nearby)
3- Car lights or other lights (orb not light enough and doesn't spread or cast a shadow)
4- Swamp gas or fog hoarding light (no swamp gas or fog)
5- Glare from flash ( this one I am not very familiar with but would think that it would happen in more pics unless the lighting source in this room is significantly different or positioned differently than it is in the other rooms)
6- EMF from electrical source (I'm sure that someone on the tour or working there would have gotten ill from this by now and the owners would have corrected it)
The orbs are more transparent than other orbs that I've seen but this could be because of the type camera used or the type of orb (since no one really can explain what orbs are anyway). I've noticed that the few orbs I have gotten on my 35mm are lighter than those taken on most digital cameras. And again, to repeat what this person and others have noticed, I have never ever caught orbs on any of the 100s of pics I've taken with my camera. The five or so I finally caught were in places that are known to be active. So that's all I can think of as far as reasons and since none of them fit except possibly number 5, I personally think the orbs on these pics can be attribute to paranormal phenomena in the Whaley House. Other justified comments are welcome and encouraged. So There!
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CryptKeeper
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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You forgot about false positive #7...Digital cameras. If you pick up an Orb with a 35mm you can pretty much figure it's an Orb. 35 mm doesn't have the pixelation or shutter speed a Digital camera has. To capture an Orb with a 35mm, you have to be using at least a 400 ASA with a shutter speed of at least 1000 of a second. Digital cameras have been debuncked for Orbs because they process faster than that.As to Myrtles Plantation... TAPS showed what could be contributing to the Obs being filmed. I'm not saying that there is not paranormal activity there.
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Santa2
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| Snm, I've seen orbs transform down onto the floor into their human shape. Remember Spirits travel to different locations that they frequented when they were living. Who wants to stay home all the time? This is why haunted locations sometimes have no activity. If you know the name of the spirit to a location you can sometimes call them home if you state your reason why you request their presence. It's best if you show respect. Note. be nice here please. |
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eeek_the_kat
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| How is it dust? Think about it, this is the most haunted house in America we're talking about. |
Because I get the all the time when I take pictures in my house and I don't have the most haunted house in America. |
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Snm
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Snm wrote: |
| How is it dust? Think about it, this is the most haunted house in America we're talking about. |
Because I get the all the time when I take pictures in my house and I don't have the most haunted house in America. |
You shouldn't be worrying about the paranormal living in Duh-luth. I'm sure all you really care about is driving your SUV at an average speed of 100 mph since you work a thousand miles from where you live, and taking care of your 2.5 kids, like everyone else living the suburban life in Gwinnett County. |
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ponyboy
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You shouldn't be worrying about the paranormal living in Duh-luth. I'm sure all you really care about is driving your SUV at an average speed of 100 mph since you work a thousand miles from where you live, and taking care of your 2.5 kids, like everyone else living the suburban life in Gwinnett County. |
ok, this is getting out of hand, man. you need to chill out. just because people are challenging your beliefs and giving you opinons on your "ghost pictures" that are different from your own (opinions that YOU ASKED FOR, i might add), does not give you the right to talk down about them. if you can't deal with people disagreeing with you, this is not the place for you. we are a community that is open to all viewpoints regarding paranormal phenomenon.
and for the record, i know eeek. he doesn't drive an SUV or have kids.
also for the record, i still think it's just dust.
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Snm
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Okay enough of me being nice today!!!!!!!!
Come on you guys that is so not dust!!! Dust orbs don't even look like that. They are usually small, closer to whatever stirred them up, and there are tons of them. Yes, those of us who clean know that dust specks never travel alone. Even if it were a piece of lint or a large dust bunny flying through the air somehow, I'm sure they would be in most of the rooms and therefore on more pics. The dust would also have to be big enough to deflect enough light to create orbs that big - something I've never seen. And if it they were, I'm sure somebody would have saw it and said something. Plus the desk looks like it has been polished which if this were the case, dust would be attracted to the stuff on the desk not away from it. As far as the ceiling orb, if it were dust I highly doubt it would travel up there unless it was blown from below, pulled in by a fan, or some type of suction or return vent was up there which I don't see. If the dust were on the camera used it would show up in more pics close to or in the exact same spot until wiped off (it usually won't come off or move around by itself). If all of you still honestly believe that this is still dust, I'm sure that you will have no problem creating a pic with a single large dust orb indoors and in a place that is regularly cleaned. We need to be more analytical when discussing and commenting on pics or any other type of phenomena. And as investigators, making a comment without backing it up with a good sound explanation would be very unacceptable and unprofessional if you were working on a real investigation (and I know at least two of you who do work on real investigations). And honestly, right now, if I had a ghost in my crib, I'd rather invite Scooby Doo and Crew in to do the investigation than you guys. Now back to the picture, there are many other ways that false positive orbs end up on film. For instance it could be:
1- Insects (would probably be visible to the necked eye and usually have a smaller orb with a spread)
2- Bacteria (nothing infected or decomposing nearby)
3- Car lights or other lights (orb not light enough and doesn't spread or cast a shadow)
4- Swamp gas or fog hoarding light (no swamp gas or fog)
5- Glare from flash ( this one I am not very familiar with but would think that it would happen in more pics unless the lighting source in this room is significantly different or positioned differently than it is in the other rooms)
6- EMF from electrical source (I'm sure that someone on the tour or working there would have gotten ill from this by now and the owners would have corrected it)
The orbs are more transparent than other orbs that I've seen but this could be because of the type camera used or the type of orb (since no one really can explain what orbs are anyway). I've noticed that the few orbs I have gotten on my 35mm are lighter than those taken on most digital cameras. And again, to repeat what this person and others have noticed, I have never ever caught orbs on any of the 100s of pics I've taken with my camera. The five or so I finally caught were in places that are known to be active. So that's all I can think of as far as reasons and since none of them fit except possibly number 5, I personally think the orbs on these pics can be attribute to paranormal phenomena in the Whaley House. Other justified comments are welcome and encouraged. So There! |
Excellent post. I agree 100%. The orbs in the courtroom are not dust, I found that they have appeared on film to others as well. Doing a search online I found several other people have also captured the orbs in the same room. Here's some pics I found online that corroborate what was found in my pics:
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ponyboy
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the fact that other people have gotten pictures of these "orbs" does not prove that the "orbs" are paranormal in any way.
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Snm
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You shouldn't be worrying about the paranormal living in Duh-luth. I'm sure all you really care about is driving your SUV at an average speed of 100 mph since you work a thousand miles from where you live, and taking care of your 2.5 kids, like everyone else living the suburban life in Gwinnett County. |
ok, this is getting out of hand, man. you need to chill out. just because people are challenging your beliefs and giving you opinons on your "ghost pictures" that are different from your own (opinions that YOU ASKED FOR, i might add), does not give you the right to talk down about them. if you can't deal with people disagreeing with you, this is not the place for you. we are a community that is open to all viewpoints regarding paranormal phenomenon.
and for the record, i know eeek. he doesn't drive an SUV or have kids.
also for the record, i still think it's just dust. |
I understand where you're coming from but eeek was trying to make a mockery of my post. There's a difference between that and stating an opinion. I can respect other viewpoints such as yours as long as they are made nicely. It's not dust by the way. If you still don't believe me then I'd like you to discredit the evidence I've just presented. |
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ponyboy
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the pictures you posted rpeviously do not prove that the phenomenon is any more paranormal. it does prove that more than one person can take a picture of dust in the same place at a different time. and i respect your opinion that it is paranormal, and i am very grateful that you respect mine as well.
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