Joined: Feb 03, 2005 Posts: 1024 Location: Columbia, SC
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject:
We liked what we saw!!! You have worked long and hard for this and ....You Go!!!! I will admit that your other 2 halfs are prettier than "JASON and Grant"...lol My inner feelings are that it will go far.
Goldfollies _________________ Your loved ones are not gone...They are just harder to see and hear!!!
Wishnick,
hey, I was searching for more info on the Amanda Tusing case, as well & I came across some old articles that mentoned Carla Baron as being part of the investigation too. Maybe you sure send Ghostgeek a PM and ask about it.
OK, I might be wrong here, but thought I'd interject.
I'm thinking that when a project is first discussed about the possibility of becoming a series, there must be people involved who do some research and come up with a "game plan".
I don't know, but I think it wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination for a psychic profiler to say something like - hey, I am aware of this missing person case, that I was involved in. I tried to gather some information and would like the opportunity to try again. I also think this would be a great avenue to get this person's story "out there" and possibly help with new leads and give the family closure.
Now, *if* this were the scenerio - again, I don't know - you would have to understand that once contracts are signed and the series is a "done deal", the cast really has no input as to how the network might promote and present the show.
Yes, they said "the psychics go into these cases cold, with no prior knowledge". True? Obviously not. At least not on the Tusing case. So what. I don't think that should be an issue with the cast or crew of the series. I'm also not so sure that it raises a great deal of questions about the credibility of the show.
Here's why:
Look at the number of times we return to the same "haunted" locations in hopes of finding "evidence" ourselves. I really don't think it matters how many times a psychic re-visits a certain cold case. The point is they are trying to help. Trying to make a difference. Trying to make it count. For the families. THAT is the bottom line.
I'm not saying she suggested they take the Tusing case. But if she was cast, then realized they would be covering the Tusings, I don't think it would be a stretch for her to say, "I've worked on this case previously, maybe we should make the audience aware of that", instead of pretending to be completely new to it (and I realize that could have been a decision of the show's producers, and not necessarily her own).
I don't think there's anything wrong with revisiting something. I do think it is dishonest to act as if she's never interacted with these people before, as if she's getting all this info psychically for the first time, when she's not. Dishonesty and half-truths like that can really damage whatever positive reputation genuine psychics have left. I don't see how lying isn't affecting the credibility of the show. If they don't plan on being taken seriously, they should have some sort of "for entertainment purposes only" disclaimer, like Miss Cleo.
I agree that these cases should be brought back into people's attention, and I sincerely hope some form of closure can eventually be given to the families involved; they truly deserve some peace of mind.
(I'm sorry, I hope I'm not pissing anyone off. I just had high hopes for the show, and the thought that it could be staged is just kind of disapointing.)
Pissed off?? Absolutly Not!!!
If she was involved with this case and didn't mention it and just continued letting people think all these things she said she ("felt") were coming to her like she had not known anything about the case prior,that doesn't look good at all.I don't see how anybody could defend that.
My 2 cents...
I was searching for more info on Amanda Tusing after watching that HE episode. This is a link that I came across dated 2004. I'm not sure if this is the same article that Wishnick read or not. I am very pleased with the program and I hope that new exposure will help to solve these cases.
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I don't know, but I think it wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination for a psychic profiler to say something like - hey, I am aware of this missing person case, that I was involved in. I tried to gather some information and would like the opportunity to try again. I also think this would be a great avenue to get this person's story "out there" and possibly help with new leads and give the family closure.
Now, *if* this were the scenerio - again, I don't know - you would have to understand that once contracts are signed and the series is a "done deal", the cast really has no input as to how the network might promote and present the show.
Yes, they said "the psychics go into these cases cold, with no prior knowledge". True? Obviously not. At least not on the Tusing case. So what. I don't think that should be an issue with the cast or crew of the series. I'm also not so sure that it raises a great deal of questions about the credibility of the show.
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Pretty close to the truth, Denisee. The cast had no input in the editing of the episodes, and in fact didn't even have a chance to see the episodes until the first one aired last week. If Carla said at any point in time on camera that she had worked with the Tusings before, it might or might not have made it into the final cut, and she wouldn't know until the show aired if it did or not. As for what the narrator says at the beginning of the show, I watched carefully for it this last night. He doesn't say they come in with no prior knowledge, but instead that "they were given no information on the case". Splitting hairs? Probably, but there is a difference in the two phrases. We are talking television here, after all. If this was a documentary, there would be a valid concern in the fact that Carla's having previously worked on the Tusing case wasn't mentioned at the beginning of the program. But this isn't a documentary, I don't know if it even qualifies as reality-tv, it's more of a docu-drama.
Wishnick, I agree with you, the thought that the show could be staged is disappointing. However, talking to GG (and I'm sure he'll weigh in later today), it's obvious that both John and Carla made some true hits during the filming of these episodes. He has mentioned many times that he was truly impressed with their gifts My opinion is that the show wasn't staged, but that the production company made sure to play-up the more interesting aspects and down-play those that didn't enhance the production value of the show. They do, after all, have an interest in keeping the public's attention and making sure the show continues past it's first few episodes, in order to bring as many cases back into the public eye as possible.
Joined: Jun 16, 2004 Posts: 124 Location: Smyrna, Georgia
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: HAUNTING EVIDENCE
Ghostgeek is a real T.V. series Star now!!! Can I have your autograph? Your future is so bright, you better wear shades! Ghostgeek, I think the show needs less psychic b.s. and more real paranormal investigation time, which means more airtime for you. _________________ from GrayGhost
"No secret is kept so close, as that between a rider and his horse!"
Joined: Jan 14, 2004 Posts: 1893 Location: Georgia
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:42 am Post subject:
goohsmom wrote:
Just my very long .02
Yea, that was more like $1.02!!!
As usual, my better half spelled it out and I couldn't say it any better. No the show is NOT staged. Both John and Carla picked up numerous "hits" that they could not have had prior knowledge of because they were not publicly released details, and you'll see those in future episodes.
FYI, the show is already accomplishing its intended goal; Amanda's mother posted that after last weeks premiere, new leads started flooding in. She went on to say that both she and her husband are pleased with the program; thought it was done tastefully and are of course thankful to have this unique opportunity to have their daughters case get the extra attention it has.
I know I speak for everyone when I say that hopefully these new leads prove to be valuable in the case. FINGERS CROSSED! _________________ Patrick Burns
Founder and Director, Ghost Hounds
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
Joined: Jan 14, 2004 Posts: 1893 Location: Georgia
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:34 pm Post subject:
That I'm not sure about as I'm not involved in the production end of things at all.
I DO know the goal was never to deceive anyone. As you have pointed out, its well published that there had been prior involvement on Carla's behalf in these cases, and certainly the powers that be knew this would be quickly discovered, as its well documented on her own site. _________________ Patrick Burns
Founder and Director, Ghost Hounds
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
True, I do keep forgetting just how heavily edited TV shows can be. It just seemed like a strange omission, something for close-minded skeptics to latch onto, which I doubt anyone involved with the show would want.
Its going to have to be a wait and see what happens,wheather the info provided brings cops any closer to closing this case.The commentator says at the beginning of the show that police have used Carla Baron in other cases,it would be interesting to know if any info provided by her in those cases ever helped in solving crimes,
Joined: Aug 17, 2005 Posts: 272 Location: elmira,new york
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject:
she was formally on "psychic detevives".always remember that no psychic is 100% accurate.so by her going there again,she can pick up new vibes she might not have felt before,due to noise(noise can be a big factor in the ability to concentrate)now if you noticed,her,and john,both add pieces to the puzzle.and its amazing!.it's as though they are sharing "energy",to make each other stronger.and if you notice,they each came up with a puzzle piece that completed the puzzle at the end!i dont even question the validity of either one.i just wish jon,and carla could be on this site more often(logged in,to answer our questions pertaining to lost items,loved ones,ect....but that would probably drain them too much to do the show,lol. _________________ i know not with what weapons World War III will be fought,
but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones
-Albert Einstein-
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Your future is so bright, you better wear shades! 
Ghostgeek, I think the show needs less psychic b.s. and more real paranormal investigation time, which means more airtime for you.
